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Marc:

I appreciate that what I would like to have is not easy to code, and that you have other users to consider, so I will abandon my request to create the type of form that I proposed.

I have looked at the Google forms, and I previously looked at JotForm. For Jotform to work, someone has to create an event in Localendar. Then folks who access that event will see the filled in form. In my case, since users create the events in question, each of them would have to learn how to use Jotform. Also, it seems no one else could edit it later.

Google forms has a similar problem that the creator must be knowledgeable. Also, someone must then take the Google calendar entry, and convert it to Localendar. My users don't have that kind of authority.

So neither of these approaches seem to be very workable for exchanges directly between users.

I could make what you proposed back on Aug. 15, 2015 on this thread work--where on the Security Page you proposed adding a dropdown so 'edit privileges' could be authorized by the Administrator for select names. Then I could write very basic instructions for my users on the format to both create the event, and to edit one that someone else created. Since this calendar requires a log in to access it in the first place, I don't forsee any security risk.

So can what you proposed be added? If so, I will go away happy on this subject. biggrin


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Well, we did implement the "delegated admin" ability some time ago to let other people edit events on your calendar (http://localendar.com/docs/display/lc/Adding+Other+Users+as+Calendar+Administrators)

Does that work?
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Well, we did implement the "delegated admin" ability some time ago to let other people edit events on your calendar (http://localendar.com/docs/display/lc/Adding+Other+Users+as+Calendar+Administrators)

Does that work?
I looked at that when it was initially discussed. Perhaps I did not respond then.

That option gives folks access to the WHOLE calendar, which means they can change General settings, various Options, etc. The folks I am doing this for don't know Localendar, and don't want to learn it for just this limited use. Plus, I don't want someone else making any non-event changes without my knowing it.

So I am looking for something that allows editing of events ONLY.


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Actually, the delegated admins cannot change the other items you mention. They can only add/edit/delete events.

If they try to change the other options, they will see this message:

 
You have been given rights to add and edit events for calendar OPwebmaster, but only the calendar owner is allowed to alter the calendar options.

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Actually, the delegated admins cannot change the other items you mention. They can only add/edit/delete events.

If they try to change the other options, they will see this message:
 
You have been given rights to add and edit events for calendar OPwebmaster, but only the calendar owner is allowed to alter the calendar options.


It has been a while since I tried this, and you guys like to make discrete changes without telling us biggrin , so here is what I just did:

I selected a name/password (CatlowJ) from the Sharing->Permission list that I had previously created for OJPpatrol calendar. I added CatlowJ to the Admin Permissions list for Full Access. Then I Signed Off Localendar. I reopened it using the name/password for CatlowJ.

CatlowJ can access all the Options! In fact, the only thing that CatlowJ cannot access are items which require a Premium subscription, which CatlowJ obviously does not have.

Even if this had worked (and perhaps I did something wrong), it requires, when a person gets a notice of an event via the simple login for View Only access, if he wants to edit the event, he then must open Localendar (for which he knows nothing about) and do it there. This requires not only more steps, but a knowledge of Localendar that quite frankly, most of the folks using this are not willing to take the time to learn just for scheduling or changing an event.

So I go back to my initial request: Under View Permissions, have a choice between 'View Only' and "View and Edit'.


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I don't think you did test the delegated access appropriately, because of this sentence:
> I reopened it using the name/password for CatlowJ.

That's not exactly how it works. I believe when you signed out as yourself and back in as CatlowJ, you were seeing CatlowJ's calendar, where you would of course be able to access the Options.

What you would also see is a list of delegated calendars on the left menu, one of which would be OPWebmaster. If you selected that calendar, and then clicked Options, you would have gotten the "You have been given rights to add and edit events for calendar OPwebmaster, but only the calendar owner is allowed to alter the calendar options." message.

If you just sign in as a user, you are taken to their account/calendar. You need to select another calendar on the left to actually work on it.

>, if he wants to edit the event, he then must open Localendar (for which he knows nothing about) and do it there

I can tell you, this will always be the case for security reasons. There is no secure way to allow a person to edit an event outside of building some type of authorization (to verify they are the person you have delegated). And, you need an Event Editor to do the work. When you build those 2 things, you have basically re-created signing into localendar and clicking on an Event to edit it.

Now, you might ask, "Can multiple people get alerted when a new event is added" (the answer would be yes). But we can't allow editing outside the app.
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Marc:

I understand that security is a key requirement for Localendar, and I appreciate that.

So I will drop back and try my 'Plan B', which is not as easy for my users as what I had proposed that you modify, but a lot easier than dealing with setting up and using their own Localendar, etc.

And I am all set for then getting notified via Email when anyone adds an Event.


Have a great Holiday season.


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I quickly re-scanned this thread. What's Plan B again?
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Marc:
 
I quickly re-scanned this thread. What's Plan B again?

It may not be detailed in this thread. For folks to patrol in the park, they have to have a partner. One of the purposes of this calendar (OJPpatrol) was to be able to allow people who needed a partner to add an event giving time, date, location, saying that they need a partner, and set the Custom Category to 'Need Partner'.

If I could have had the Edit function, then a potential partner would just Edit the 1st entry, adding their name, and change the Category to 'Have Partner'. That way anyone else, including the Police, could quickly see who was patrolling at a specific time and location.

Since the Edit is not available, Plan B is for the partner to just add a new event, same date and time, saying he/she is willing to be the partner. With multiple entries required, my Custom Category scheme does not make sense. So folks, including the Police, have to look at multiple entries to see who is patrolling.


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