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Posted by support at Jul 19, 2010, 8:41:01 PM
iCal Export Feeds Available
In our prior announcement we unveiled support for importing iCalendar feeds into your localendar. We now announce the ability to export your localendar as an icalendar feed.

The iCalendar feed for your public events is accessible at:
http://www.localendar.com/public/yourmembername?style=X2

With this feed, you or your visitors (there is also a small "iCal" icon at the bottom of your public calendar view next to the RSS icon) can add a live feed of your localendar to a Google, Outlook, Apple, or other calendar that supports the iCalendar standard. We export the full recurrence information for an event. In other words, if you set up an event to repeat every 1st Monday and 3rd Thursday in localendar and you import your calendar into Google, it will repeat the same way there, too.

Our support for merging in iCal feeds and publishing to iCal will be the primary export/import feature we will be concentrating on going forward (support for the Wyncs plugin will be discontinued in the near future, but we will still support CSV import/export)

When you edit events, the feed is automatically updated with the changes. Some programs may only download the feed once (like Google) so you might need to delete/re-add it to see the updates.

Other stuff:

  • The Feed noted above only exports Public events (since it's on your public calendar view). We will offer an iCalendar download of your entire calendar for logged-in members in the near future.
  • Events that are marked as "Move to Friday/Monday if this event falls on a weekend" will not be moved in the feed.

One more thing!
Like iCal merging, iCal exports (to both feed and file) will not require a Premium subscription. We will be adding some other features in this area, but all iCalendar functions will be free. In fact, all of the import/export functionality will be moving to "Free" in the near future.
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Posted by mneiswender at Aug 25, 2010, 12:21:22 PM
sad   Re: iCal Export Feeds error
Hi,
Trying to sync my daughters elementary school localendar to my google calendar via your iCal support.
But all the events which appear correctly on the schools localendar page appear one day earlier on my google calendar. So for example today, August 25, is the first day of school on the school's calendar, but on my google calendary it appears via iCal as an event for yesterday, August 24.
I am linking to the url indicated by the iCal logo on the localendar-generated web page: http://www.localendar.com/public/lacyelem?style=X2

Any help?

Posted by support at Sep 11, 2010, 8:06:57 AM
Re: iCal Export Feeds error
It turns out the iCalendar specification is s little vague in this area. We export an all day event like August 25 in a format like this:

DTSTART: 08252010

However, Google expects to see it as
DTSTART: 08252010
DTEND: 08262010

To us (and others) this doesn't make sense. Saying the event ends on the 26th would rather seem like a 2-day event taking place of Aug 25-26.

But this is how Google interpreted the spec for All Day events (other events should work fine). We are looking into a way to accomodate everyone, whether they are using Google, Outlook, or another calendar program.
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Posted by BRAARC at Sep 14, 2010, 7:19:58 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds error
Thank you for adding this feature. I've had great success adding it to my google calendar. However, when I sync with my Ipod calendar the notes show the html as part of the text. Any ideas for a work around?? Thank you! Keep up the good work.

Posted by support at Sep 16, 2010, 10:14:06 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds error
If the descriptions contain HTML, we leave it in with the hopes that whatever you're syncing with will display it. I'm not sure if we can (or would) want to remove it unless we specifically knew what you were syncing with.

I don't have any ideas for a workaround, but I'll give it a think...
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Posted by hcmgroup at Oct 20, 2010, 7:12:29 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
How do I add an iCAL icon to my calendar so I can sync with Google calendar?

Posted by support at Oct 20, 2010, 10:15:04 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
There is already a small ical icon at the bottom of your public calendar
(http://www.localendar.com/public/hcmgroup)

Is that what you're after?
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Posted by HerndonBand at Oct 28, 2010, 2:51:54 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
I have a calendar with a default time zone of EST, and in your web site, the times for events are correctly showing.

But when imported into Outlook, the times all render one hour off because we are really in daylight savings time right now.

You need to take DST into account when creating and editing event times.

Posted by support at Nov 1, 2010, 6:05:03 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
That's one opinion wink

Have a look at this post:
http://www.localendar.com/lcf/lcforums/viewthread?thread=5801#16130

When *we* import iCal events, we look at the Timezone they originate in and see if DST is currently in effect. We also look at the Timezone of your calendar to see if DST is in effect also. And we compare location data. Some programs like Outlook and Google Calendar interpret the iCal spec a little more loosely.

Think about it: An event in tagged as Nov1, 9PM, New York timezone should import into *any* application set for the same location/timezone at the time of 9pm. Why would you ever adjust this by an hour? But Outlook does so blindly.

We are testing to see if they work correctly against GMT and if so we may export all events relative to this instead of local timezones. This is not an uncommon problem. We've seen many DST interoperability issues described while researching this functionality.

[Update]
Since Google and Microsoft have pushed DST calculations on the feed provider, it seems like we have no choice but to follow to preserve interoperability with them sad We've made a change that should correct your issue. However, what we still need to figure out is how to handle repeating events that span DST changes. We'll be doing some testing with Google and Outlook to see what they export and what they expect.
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Posted by support at Nov 4, 2010, 5:30:04 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
OK - we've done even more testing, specifically with Outlook and Google, and recurring events that span Daylight Saving Time changes should display correctly when you import from localendar.

Please let us know your thoughts!
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Posted by htsb at Nov 5, 2010, 10:53:54 AM
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My iCal feed was working great and then went dead yesterday and still dead today. Has this service been discontinued or something? How can I get it back? confused To clarify, its not really dead, it just doesn't contain any of the events that are on my calendar. It looks like it contains only header type information.

Here is where my iCal feed used to be;
http://www.localendar.com/public/htsb?style=X2

Posted by support at Nov 9, 2010, 11:33:43 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
Please refresh the feed. There was a minor issue introduced when we embedded timezones in the iCal feed (to make sure DST was properly handled for apps like Outlook and Google calendar)
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Posted by htsb at Nov 10, 2010, 8:49:46 PM
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OK, its better now but not complete. I have numerous future events that are not showing up in the iCal feed. I am only getting one weekly repeating event. You did say to "refresh the feed". Does that require some particular action on my part?
Looking at the text of the iCal feed it contains quite a bit more information that it did a few days back when I called it "dead.. just header info". So I am thinking its "refreshed". In any case, I can now see numerous past events but only the one repeating event looking forward. There should be more future events in the iCal output.

my iCal feed;
http://www.localendar.com/public/htsb?style=X2

Posted by support at Nov 14, 2010, 10:27:52 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
We pushed a fix this Sat for a bug related to a particular type of localendar event.

Since your post was before that update, may I impose on you to check again and see if you still see any missing events?
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Posted by htsb at Nov 17, 2010, 7:30:28 PM
confused   Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
 
.... may I impose on you to check again and see if you still see any missing events?


Checked again and it is better, i.e. more events are showing up in my iphone and google calendar subscription to this feed, but not all of them. Comparison between what iphone imports and google calendar imports is similar but not the same. Both are missing several repeating events. There is an all day event that shows up in the iphone and google calendar on the following day instead of the scheduled day. Based on a quick text search it seems that some of the ones not importing are listed in the iCal text but I'm no expert. In any case, it would seem that both google and iphone are not interpreting all of the iCal data they are getting from the localendar iCal feed for whatever reason and they also seem to be interpreting it differently. I didn't notice any issues like this about 3 weeks ago. There are no obvious differences between the events showing up and the events not showing up.

Posted by support at Nov 22, 2010, 8:00:04 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
We'd like to track these down, of course and understand the discrepancies.

If you can give me the name of a sample (repeating) event on your calendar that's not showing up on your Google calendar?
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Posted by htsb at Dec 1, 2010, 5:43:02 PM
confused   Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
One of the repeating events not importing into Google Calendar is:
Choir Practice, 10 am Sundays repeats until March 2014. I notice the difference in the ICAL text between the events that import and the ones that don't seems to be associated with RRULE:FREQ=XXXX........ data. All the events not importing seem to be missing the RRULE data. Everything else in the ICAL text makes sense. Not sure I am parsing this right, but here is the Choir Practice event that does not import to google (it only imports the first occurrence):

VEVENT
DTSTAMP:20101201T220555Z
DTSTART;TZID=America/Los_Angeles:20080210T100000
DTEND;TZID=America/Los_Angeles:20080210T110000
SUMMARY:Choir Practice
EXDATE;TZID=America/Los_Angeles:20100404T100000
DESCRIPTION:Meet in Parish Cathedral at 10:00 am
LOCATION: UID:20110501T023724Z-37@ELSIE-CT1
END:

Posted by htsb at Dec 1, 2010, 5:53:07 PM
confused   Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
More on the all day event importing to google and iphone on the following day. The ICAL text is as follows:
VEVENT
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTAMP:20101201T220555Z
DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20101114
DTEND;VALUE=DATE:20101115
SUMMARY:EAM Adult Retreat DESCRIPTION:Special visit by Bishop Bruce. Details to follow.
LOCATION: UID:20110501T023844Z-117@ELSIE-CT1
END:

I am not familiar with the ICAL format conventions but based on the DTSTART, DTEND values above, the date of this all day event seems completely ambiguous. I can see why some might call it Nov 15 and some Nov 14. Is this really correct ICAL text for an all day event on Nov 14?

Posted by support at Dec 1, 2010, 10:08:14 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
I know it seems crazy - but yes; that should be correct. You can enter a similar event on a Google calendar and export it and compare the text.

We have seen different conventions used in Google, Outlook, and other products, but we have settled on Google and Outlook as out primary tests since they have the largest installed base combined.

I'll do some more testing on our side to confirm, but we should be creating our All Day events the same way that Google created theirs.
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Posted by support at Dec 3, 2010, 4:05:36 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
Here's an All Day event on 12/14 that was created on, and exported from, a Google Calendar:
 

BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20101214
DTEND;VALUE=DATE:20101215
DTSTAMP:20101203T210103Z
SUMMARY:All Day Event
END:VEVENT


Note how it starts on the 14th, and ends on the 15th. Conceptually, you would think this must be a 2 day event.. But I believe the 15th is actually interpreted as "midnight on the 14th". Likewise, the 14th is also "midnight on the 13th". Between those times is actually the Full Day of the 14th.

In any case, we're giving Google back what it spits out, so those All Day events should be interpreted correctly. Still looking into your RRULE question.
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Posted by support at Dec 3, 2010, 6:42:46 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
On the RRULE issue, we made a small change thanks to the example you posted. Please let me know if we're getting all of your events now smile
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Posted by htsb at Dec 7, 2010, 8:14:25 PM
smile   Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
Events all there. Thank you for the updates! smile

Posted by LADDTraining at May 2, 2011, 3:12:25 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
Hi! Wanted to bump this thread as I've been having progressively bad issues with syncing to my google calendar. First it was just slow, then it started giving me the wrong times and now the events just don't show up. I've deleted, refreshed, done what I've can based on what I've read and I can't get it to work. I only use this calendar for the iCal feed and I would like to figure out how to get it working again.

Thanks!
Stephanie

Posted by support at May 2, 2011, 4:45:51 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
Your feed (http://www.localendar.com/public/LADDTraining?style=X2) validates fine at the iCal validator

We have opened some threads at Google (no response yet) for some members who's calendars havent been imported successfully.

Since the feed is valid from everything we can tell, and by 3rd party tests, we are assuming Google is having a problem with some aspect of your events. We're trying to get answers, but I'd encourage you to post a question on their support forum too.
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Posted by ElstonUMC at Apr 4, 2012, 5:01:28 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
The Ical feeds from Google calendar DO NOT update in localendar. From this post it appears that this is a known problem. We have tried to delete and re-add the calendars in question, as suggested, but the problem persists. Is this a cache issue? Is there a solution?

Posted by support at Apr 7, 2012, 2:08:51 PM
Re: iCal Export Feeds Available
We removed all caching of iCal feeds in localendar some time ago. Although it requires more processing power on our side, it means that when a feed is updated, localendar will be updated immediately.

I just created a test "Hi Marc" event on a Google calendar, and imported that calendar into localendar successfully. I went back to Google, added the text "How are you" to the end, then went back to localendar and pressed F5. The change was there instantly.

You might consider trying a simple test like this yourself, and also making sure you clear your browser cache.
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